Mick, you've done it! I've had this breathless feeling that I've known
about a CRIME about to be committed and I didn't do a thing about it.
Now it's done, Yosemite is letterboxed. What's next? The other crown
jewels of the park system? The Grand Canyon? Yellowstone? Is there
nowhere that is safe?

Way to go, Mick: can't wait to get back to California to see for myself.

Jay

Have you even been to Yosemite? It's an interesting place. Great hiking, but
there is a snackbar and gift shop on top of Glacier Point. It is perfectly
within the park rules to walk up to a cliff, drill a hole in it with a
cordless drill and hammer in an aluminum expansion bolt. That's called
bolting. Peak season you can still hear climbers hard nailing, and the park
service is perfectly ok with that. My point? The Grand Canyon is a place of
quite introsepection and air tours, Yosemite is a park dedicated to doing
stuff, like rock climbing, hiking and hang gliding off 3000 foot cliffs.
I'll follow the discorse over this week if the group decides against me I'll
pull it out Saturday. Otherwise, it's a great hike, some of the best views
of the valley anywhere.
Mick

Sun, 03 Oct 1999 10:55:17 -0700, nep1bjd@nep10.med.navy.mil wrote:

> Mick, you've done it! I've had this breathless feeling that I've known
> about a CRIME about to be committed and I didn't do a thing about it.
> Now it's done, Yosemite is letterboxed. What's next? The other crown
> jewels of the park system? The Grand Canyon? Yellowstone? Is there
> nowhere that is safe?
>
> Way to go, Mick: can't wait to get back to California to see for myself.
>
> Jay
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Leave it where it is!!!

>>> "Mick Werve" 10/04 10:02 AM >>>
Have you even been to Yosemite? It's an interesting place. Great hiking, but
there is a snackbar and gift shop on top of Glacier Point. It is perfectly
within the park rules to walk up to a cliff, drill a hole in it with a
cordless drill and hammer in an aluminum expansion bolt. That's called
bolting. Peak season you can still hear climbers hard nailing, and the park
service is perfectly ok with that. My point? The Grand Canyon is a place of
quite introsepection and air tours, Yosemite is a park dedicated to doing
stuff, like rock climbing, hiking and hang gliding off 3000 foot cliffs.
I'll follow the discorse over this week if the group decides against me I'll
pull it out Saturday. Otherwise, it's a great hike, some of the best views
of the valley anywhere.
Mick

Sun, 03 Oct 1999 10:55:17 -0700, nep1bjd@nep10.med.navy.mil wrote:

> Mick, you've done it! I've had this breathless feeling that I've known
> about a CRIME about to be committed and I didn't do a thing about it.
> Now it's done, Yosemite is letterboxed. What's next? The other crown
> jewels of the park system? The Grand Canyon? Yellowstone? Is there
> nowhere that is safe?
>
> Way to go, Mick: can't wait to get back to California to see for myself.
>
> Jay
>
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> >>> "Mick Werve" 10/04 10:02 AM >>>

> I'll follow the discorse over this week if the group decides against me I'll
> pull it out Saturday. Otherwise, it's a great hike, some of the best views
> of the valley anywhere.
> Mick

Leave it! Great to have a box in Yosemite!

--
Thom Cheney
tcgrafx... among other things

I agree....leave it!

Bonnie Sennott
Leverett, MA


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>Subject: [LbNA] Re: Glacier Point Letterbox
>Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:00:40 -0700
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> > >>> "Mick Werve" 10/04 10:02 AM >>>
>
> > I'll follow the discorse over this week if the group decides against me
>I'll
> > pull it out Saturday. Otherwise, it's a great hike, some of the best
>views
> > of the valley anywhere.
> > Mick
>
>Leave it! Great to have a box in Yosemite!
>
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Reply to: RE: [LbNA] Glacier Point Letterbox
Harrah for you, Mick! A letterbox in Yosemite is terrific--at the top of El Capitan is even more impressive! Please, please leave it be.
Could you also post clues from the top of Glacier Point for those of us who would want to hike down?
Linda


mplace_ wrote:
>Where: Yosemite Valley
> Glacier point via 4 Mile Trail
>4.6 miles long, 9.2 round trip
>3200 fett gain in elevation (Area can be reached by car or bus.)
>Allow 3-4 hours to hike up
>Allow 6-8 hours round trip
>
>Park at the 4 Mile Trail Head located at the base of Sentinal Rock in
>Yosemite Valley. Follow the well marked trail to the top od Glacier
>Point. Along the way enjoy the magnificent views of El Capitan, the
>Three Sisters, Yosemite Falls (probably the best place to view the
>falls in the park) and Half Dome.
>
>At the point where civilazation reasserts itself take the easy trail
>left.
>From the sign of the times count 80 pases through the tall gaurdians
>and past the bump. Scramble up the qwm behind you about 15 feet to the
>top of the hump. Look in a crack in the world to that which you seek.
>
>Mick
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Mick:
Well, I've never been there, but it is great to know that a letterbox
awaits when I do get to visit. Congratulations! (And, lest there be any
doubt, I vote to leave it there!).

The Viking of VT

Another vote for "leave it/put in another!"

And speaking of the unspeakable at Yosemite, what about the injustice
of the Hetch Hetchy watershed? My father's photos of that magnificent
twin to the Yosemite Valley were heartbreakers to me as a kid: in his
day the hiking there was equally prized as anything along the Merced.
On my first teenage solo trip in my first car, I went to Yosemite to
hike along Dad's old trails, but the valley was flooded underwater by
the damn dam. And all the water goes to LA! So sure, there are more
Winnebagos than Kelty packs, and the bears are like foraging seagulls,
but it's still YOSEMITE!!!!

Jay

Greetings All:

Well I am one of the last to defend the water use policies of California
particularly LA county but I do believe the water from the Hetch Hetchy
resevoir feeds San Francisco. I am certain that it stays in northern CA,
so you can't blame that one on LA. Otherwise, you can blame just about
everything else on Los Angeles. For example the near destruction of
the Mono Lake ecosystem.


Todd Lane
Department of Geosciences
Princeton University
(609)258-2489

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 nep1bjd@nep10.med.navy.mil wrote:

> Another vote for "leave it/put in another!"
>
> And speaking of the unspeakable at Yosemite, what about the injustice
> of the Hetch Hetchy watershed? My father's photos of that magnificent
> twin to the Yosemite Valley were heartbreakers to me as a kid: in his
> day the hiking there was equally prized as anything along the Merced.
> On my first teenage solo trip in my first car, I went to Yosemite to
> hike along Dad's old trails, but the valley was flooded underwater by
> the damn dam. And all the water goes to LA! So sure, there are more
> Winnebagos than Kelty packs, and the bears are like foraging seagulls,
> but it's still YOSEMITE!!!!
>
> Jay
>
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